Quick Thought on Evolution

This just passed through my head (as a lot does - mostly wind) in regards to Evolutionary Theory. Please let me know if anyone else you know of has thought of it previously or if there are flaws in my logic or if it is unclear, which I am positive it will be - this is quickly thought out and quickly written:

One of the most pivotal of Evolution's tenets is that of Natural Selection. Creationists do not argue Natural Selection insofar as it describes "the survival of the fittest," or "adaptation over time" but do make the point - and a very valid one I do believe - that Natural Selection cannot create information, merely weed out that which is useless or, at least no longer used (or not needed in a specific location at a specific time, e.g. long fur coats in the tropics). Creationists and ID'ers note that all change from any one species to another within the same family ("Equine Poppa" to horse, zebra or donkey) is a loss of genetic information. One may find a useless fin here or there, but its always on a fish, never a tapir. Men have nipples, yes, but it would look mighty funny if we didn't. My point is, we see useless things occasionally, but never something that actually bears tremendous potential. Natural Selection supposedly gets rid of what we do not use therefore "whittling us up" to ever slightly larger potentials by whittling out the unused or unprofitable.

This point pops up a lot in discussions, and rightly so. There is no proof whatsoever of any mutation ever giving us a gain in information. Sorry, Wolverine's "healing factor" remains in the realm of comics and Hollywood. What has popped into my head is that, well, even if something terrifically useful were formed by mutation/chance/alien space bats it's usefulness would be in direct proportion to how much it was put to use. We don't see bumblebees with wings that, aeronautically speaking, could allow the creature to fly at hundreds of miles an hour but the creatures just don't do so... that seems ludicrous and real evolutionary scientists would tell you that just isn't the way evolution works.

One might say, but look at the potential the human body has! Look at the human mind! We only use 10 to 20 percent of that! Think of the potential! [Editor's note: the 10% theory is a myth - but I don't think it means "power" so much as "potential" anyway.]

Bingo.

We might see chimpanzees who can be taught to ride a bicycle, but I don't know any chimpanzees that can make a bicycle. Ironically, the human mind is far more powerful than any of us know (or possibly can know), and certainly if it were to come about during a thousand millennia through chance, adaptation and environment, it would still not be the wonder we see now. Even by Evolutionists own standards, mutation and natural selection would only allow a brain of fractionally more potential that what we currently use.

How can Evolution therefore account for the sheer immensity of the human mind, especially in regards to its seemingly unlimited potential? The Creationist standpoint that the mind of Man was designed as such by a Being who wished to make Man in His own image does not seem so incredible now.

More Questions

So this fella, Matt, a commentator on Lydia's blog has posed these 10 questions in response to her 10. (Which are answered on her blog at the bottom)
Here is what he wrote:
I have ten questions too. No need to answer them if you don’t want to. They’re not really challenges as much as points of personal puzzlement.

1. Regeneration. Does Christianity work? You can find just as many (probably more) Christians doing really bad things and leading really bad lives as you can find good Christians. In fact, being dogmatic about something or believing one’s self to be “saved” often makes a person haughty and insensitive.

This is true. You do. In fact, I find probably half or more of Christians that way. But I find ALL of those people who are vehemently opposed to Christianity to be in the same boat. Being a good person is not what Christianity is about though (Certainly Christ meant the church to change the world, and it has) but the point of "Christianity" is to bring Man to God and to restore that relationship.
That really is the point of what Jesus says in a nutshell.
‘Do what I have told you, and do it well. But don’t think that is what’s gonna get you into Heaven. That is the sort of people I want here with me, but that isn’t the key to the gate itself. I am the gatekeeper, I am the gate. Its my house. If you think you can get in on your own merit, you are sadly mistaken. No one is good enough. No one can storm the gates nor breach the wall. No one. I make the devils of hell quake in their boots. But all you have to do is ask, and I long to let you in. So come, ask.’

2. Redemption. How can one person (even a God-man) die in the place of another person (let alone a million)? The cross is a symbol of two wrongs (killing the innocent and freeing the guilty) supposedly making a right.

Wow. You just asked a whole two thousand years of theology in one go. For one, we are all guilty, and you just said that, so if I were you I would accept His offer. But the way it works? Rather a mystery I must say. The basics of it are this: God is the source of all life, time and space. You were made in His image, ie, given a capacity for reason and self-awareness that allows us to love freely (its our choice, we can turn away if we want). Well, we did. We do, every second. But the first time was with the sin of Adam. Adam having God's breath in him was a full, likely invincible creature. (I don't mean Superman invincible - more like Wolverine (that is a joke)) But turning from the source of all life means death and that is basically taking the breath of God back out of us. Turning us back to dust. From dust to dust and ashes to ashes.

Now, death being the fulfillment of sin, we have a need to return to God to be with Him - which is His desire for us. So God, in His mercy, takes Man into Himself (not just becoming flesh and not God putting Himself into Man, but the other way 'round) in the Incarnation -for more on this read Athanasius, "On the Incarnation" . Jesus, Y'eshua Messiah, a perfect man, never having turned from God, still retains the Breath of God so to speak and need not die. But in giving Himself up for you, and in our returning in submission through Christ, has paid the price we owe. It is a matter of one Man canceling the debts of another. Me. And for God, being outside of time, the cross of 2000 years ago is just as much present to Him now as it was then. And you may as well be the only one in the Universe with Him. He is infinite and that allows for you to be alone with Him at the moment of the cross as well as now, canceling your debt, personally. Forever.

3. Judgment. Why is God so insistent on punishing people? Why add the suffering of punishment to the suffering already caused by sin?

Well, a lot of our suffering caused by sin IS the punishment. God didn't make rules to keep you from having fun. He is just telling us how it is. Don't have pre-marital sex because a) you could end up pregnant and that is hard to raise someone singly, b) you are taking a pleasure out of context - missing the big wonderful picture that isn't self-centered and pleasure seeking. He isn't trying to keep you from having fun, He wants you to have more fun than you can possibly imagine without the troubles that come with breaking the rules. Those rules are more solid than the rules of physics.

God is not keen on punishing anyone. It gives Him no pleasure. In fact, He wants us to know Him fully and I think that may be one reason why we feel so much pain in this life. We experience terrible pain when a loved one dies. I think that may be a small taste of what God feels when we sin. We taste each other's death and that pain is no more hurtful to anyone more than it is to God, Himself.

When we turn from Life (Him) there is no other choice than death. God isn't going to send you to hell so you can get whipped. But there are certainly other creatures, namely fallen angels, that have turned from Him and reside in hell (hard to imagine a place "outside" of the presence of the all-encompassing-God) and will probably find great pleasure in causing you a good deal of discomfort. I don't know. I don't intend to find out. (Lord, by your mercy)

4. Sanctification. What is a righteous life? Is it holing up in prayer and meditation, dying as a martyr or missionary, or just being happy doing your own thing?

Loving. Loving so much that you forget yourself. Loving God and your fellow Man so fully that you reach perfect humility. Sanctification is believing in (and living for - what good is trusting a man if you don't take his advice?) God. You can then live your life in complete freedom, no worries (I didn't say, no troubles) and no fear, all excitement and wonder, for God is NEVER boring.

Doing "my own thing?" If I don't just happen to be one of the most 'awake' people, usually ends up being nothing more than what 'The Joneses' are doing. Whatever comes across my field of vision and catches my interest. For example, most of the girls you find attractive are ones that dress and act like what the media tells us is attractive. Now that isn't always the case, but it is an easy, ready example that is true for most.
On the other hand, that statement, "your own thing" is just about what makes YOU feel good, and feelings are always self-centered. It means you are ignoring, or not caring what is going on around you. Either ignoring a creation surrounding you that teems with wonder or ignoring the fellow next to you and his need (or not) who is made in the very image of God, Himself.

5. Epistemology. How do we know anything about God? How do we know God? If we trust the Bible, why? If we trust the church, shy? If we trust personal experience, why? People have trusted all these things and been horribly deceived and done horrible things.

Well, we can't know anything about Him unless He chooses to tell us. And He has.
Now many people claim to be conduits for that, as do many books. Test them. You will find that Christianity is the only religion that actually tells you to go to do that. All the others tell you to steer clear of anything "other" whereas the Bible says, "test all things." God is not afraid; if you seek Him with your whole heart and open mind, you will see the Truth and the Truth will set you free. Test the Bible to see if what it says is true. Now be warned: it isn't merely a matter of reading and thinking. It means DOING. Love your neighbor as yourself, unconditionally and you will see that what God says is unfailingly true. Do it for every account. Don't trust the Church unless you have tested it against the Bible. Personal experience is good, but like Jack once said, you can't get anywhere at sea by enjoying the wonder of the seashore. You need a map. But just looking at the map won't get you anywhere. You have to DO. Get on the boat, enjoy the ocean (and its tempests) and follow the map - lest you get lost at sea like so many others, and commit some of those horrible acts - and even then, you will be blessed if you never do. That is a trap men and devils alike lay themselves and fall themselves prone.

6. Sovereignty. If we know that all things work together for good to those that love God, God must be in charge of all things. Then how can we make real decisions?

God allows for it. Wonder of wonders as to why, I don't know, but He does. Check the Church Fathers, esp. Augustine on this, they explain better (and more concisely). Basically I think its like a parent who plans a day and then asks the child what they want to do. The child, like we, are given certain options and each falls within the plans I have laid for the day. God's plan book is far more organized than mine, for sure.

7. What is “The Kingdom”?

Here and now? In doing God's will, you find the kingdom is within you. It is being with God and finding Him within you. It is like kudzu, working small, slow and powerfully (enough to tear up concrete or cover a mountainside) one person, one heart at a time. In the hereafter? It is more than we can imagine.

8. Evil. Yes, the old problem. It ties to no. 6.

That's not a question... what do want to know? Why is there evil? As Good IS, Evil is not. As dark is the absence of light, so evil the absence of good.

9. Hamartiology. What is sin? If it is violating your nature, how can it exist (a sparrow can’t swim, but a human can sin)? If it is following one’s own will rather than God’s does that make god arbitrary?

A sparrow isn't a spiritual creature. Rarely is a physical act sinful in and of itself. It is the purpose behind it that is. Sex isn't sinful. Breaking the vow to your wife or causing another to do (or in the case of fornication, doing it without making a vow in the first place) is.

Sin isn't violating YOUR nature, its violating God's nature within you. The first part I understand, the second part about God being arbitrary, I am afraid you have lost me. How does following my own will make God arbitrary? It sounds as though you are skirting questions yourself. You don't want to define sin because once you see it, you're loathe to stop it.
We humans are a bit of an oxymoron: the spiritual beast. If you don't allow for room for choice, you don't allow for room for real love either. I think God gave us bodies so that we were not completely spiritual creatures (we are less than the angels, remember) were we to deny Him without this physical body to keep walking around (albeit by His great mercy) I imagine we would vanish like smoke. Its a blessing we don't now. ("That primitive sort of morality so prevalent among us: you do something wrong and the Maker smacks you one(1)")

10. Teleology. What is man’s purpose? People say it’s to glorify God. What is his “glory,” and how can we give it to him?

Read Weight of Glory by Lewis (pdf). I can add nothing to it.

(1) Garrison Keillor

Apologetics...

From JS
I'm new to Bible study, and can't offer much, but Catholic dogmas like the Papacy just don't have Scripture to back them up. The same with the perpetual virginity of Mary, mass, and so on. Indeed Catholics twist select verses to 'fit' their views, and to make their lies believable they go so far as to say the Pope is inerrant when explaining Scripture (a dogma also achieved through twisting verses). The Catholic church says if you don't believe what they say (their dogmas) then you are destined for hell. Hmm. OK, so imagine you gave a Bible to someone who has no idea what the Catholic church is. From reading the entire Bible it is utterly impossible for that person to even KNOW about these supposedly saving dogmas since Scripture backs none of them up. That suggests that the Bible is not enough to save a person, which contradicts many of the passages in it.

Why would God give us the Bible if it is useless without that additional material proposed by Popes? And if you accepted these additions which, as James points out, first came into being in the 300's, then what do you make of the final verses of Revelation which warn against anybody who adds or takes away from the Bible? If a Catholic thinks he can add stuff then that presumes that God lied in those verses, which contradicts the verse which says God is incapable of lying.

To believe the Catholic viewpoint is to believe in human knowledge being necessary to understand the Bible rather than God (as if God failed in being coherent, and without human intervention, we're all doomed). But the exact middle verse of the Bible is Psalm 118:8 "It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man."